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Post by lucky4u on Feb 22, 2014 18:15:03 GMT -5
That, my dear, is a fallacy. I've been to the majority of the very large casinos and some of the older ones to boot. The most excitement that I saw there was the occasional outburst from a lucky winner and that's about it. Not going to fight about whether I've been to Vegas or not as that's not the subject of this thread and is likely to just go round and round.
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Post by redsoxfan on Feb 22, 2014 18:17:25 GMT -5
That, my dear, is a fallacy. I've been to the majority of the very large casinos and some of the older ones to boot. The most excitement that I saw there was the occasional outburst from a lucky winner and that's about it. Not going to fight about whether I've been to Vegas or not as that's not the subject of this thread and is likely to just go round and round. I am not talking about the casino floor I am talking about the parties that happen in the ballrooms.
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Post by lucky4u on Feb 22, 2014 18:31:18 GMT -5
That, my dear, is a fallacy. I've been to the majority of the very large casinos and some of the older ones to boot. The most excitement that I saw there was the occasional outburst from a lucky winner and that's about it. Not going to fight about whether I've been to Vegas or not as that's not the subject of this thread and is likely to just go round and round. I am not talking about the casino floor I am talking about the parties that happen in the ballrooms. I can see bachelor's or bachelorette parties getting pretty raucous but not so much business type of events. I've been to a number of those (not in-house events but ones with both employees and clients) for a variety of oil companies and the behavior in those was actually very good. Everybody minding their p's and q's and where the most offensive thing that happened was somebody throwing up on the carpet outside the room. This is basically a bunch of older men and women behaving like they are holding a frat party--with crystal, china, champagne and petit fours. It's not even so much that though but the entire package. The audio clips are rather jaw dropping at times. The joke one--tasteless jokes but the songs were eyebrow raising for sure. Dixie was reworded to sing about the major banks going to the fed for loans and "I Believe" also sang about how there was a double dip recession but (hard to hear) they didn't care? as long as they stayed rich or something along those lines. Total package deal in terms of behavior and who they are.
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Post by bond009 on Feb 22, 2014 18:34:19 GMT -5
Tell you what watch a players ball video on YouTube or wild Las Vegas private ballroom parties. I'll bet you will see no difference between the elite and the regular folks who like to let loose every so often.
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Post by spygirl on Feb 22, 2014 18:40:28 GMT -5
We gave these people their power and wealth. We want them to buy our houses and cars for us. We pay them to make our knee jerk buying, comfortable and convenient. We pay the interest rate on debt that is not ours and it will never be paid off.
Stop cooperating with these people. They are correctly betting on our weakness of heart and mind, and we are giving them the joke material.
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Post by lucky4u on Feb 22, 2014 18:45:06 GMT -5
Again, you are focusing on just one part of their behavior (frat boys with loads of money) and not the content of what they were doing. The "Grand Swipe" heavily slammed Phi Beta Kappa (an university level honor society that's been around since 1776) with homosexual references and declaring they were established by "C+" students. The latter, who cares, but saying that they are gay? Seriously?
This little line from one of the songs is really lovely, too, from the article:
We're talking about some of the very people that crashed the economy in 2007/2008 and they are singing about how, despite all of it, please just keep me rich. Apparently they were more concerned about the presence of a journalist as they tried bribing him. Might have actually considering he recorded all of this 2 years ago.
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Post by thesanone on Feb 22, 2014 18:49:10 GMT -5
Okay I understand your upset because certain wealthy people should act classy at a private event.
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Post by augustusmasonicus on Feb 22, 2014 18:54:39 GMT -5
I think they were referring to themselves at that point:
The gay joke was about Phi Beta Kappa and their logo.
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Post by lucky4u on Feb 22, 2014 19:00:39 GMT -5
You're correct, full quote is here: Strawman fallacy. Please adjust your reading comprehension as most of my appalled response is in regards to the content of their statements and skits as I said in my previous post. Also note that this is posted in the Secret Societies forum. As a secret society, Kappa Beta Phi's behaviors while in private and especially due to their membership, would be of interest to those interested in the hidden behaviors of secret societies. Blackstone, Bear Stearns, AIG, Lehman Bros, former NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg and much, much more. The current "Grand Swipe", Wilbur Ross: www.huffingtonpost.com... nymag.com... Heck, he even worked for the Rothschilds previously.
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Post by redsoxfan on Feb 22, 2014 19:04:41 GMT -5
Oops wrong secret society.
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