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Post by montiboys on Feb 23, 2014 2:11:32 GMT -5
Wow. That is just...wow.
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Post by lucky4u on Feb 23, 2014 2:22:36 GMT -5
This behavior reminds me of what I have read about how the elite of Rome acted. Gluttony, mockery, debauchery. The part that bothers me, is the mockery. This pattern of the wealthy mocking others is why they are gaining so much hatred against their status. Ye reap what ye sow. Yep. I remember during Occupy, there was bunch of pictures and video released of one of Occupy Wall Street's attempts to march into the Wall Street area where they encountered a bunch of these people looking down at them from a balcony, taking pictures and drinking champagne. It infuriated a lot of the protesters. What amazes me is how many defend these kind of attitudes/behaviors of the financial elite. I often ponder the reason why. Is it that these defenders believe that they can become like the financial elite or is it fear? Fear that, if they do, the anger will then be directed at them or fear that the elite may retaliate against them? I remember getting into an argument with one of my family's former employees on the subject of taxing the wealthy. He'd worked a just above minimum wage low level job in my family's business, which was worth $32 million at the time. Although he was making less than $30k a year at the time, he was rabidly defending the wealthy against increasing taxes. The rub was that my father, who was, even a reduced state, still making about $360k a year, fully supported a tax increase on himself as did I. So you had basically a poor person defending the rich and a still reasonably wealthy person asking to be taxed. Irony at its worst. Never understood this phenomena.
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Post by mranderson on Feb 23, 2014 3:15:57 GMT -5
Society has done a superb job of conditioning people to think that ethically everyone who isn't deranged is morally as equal as everyone else. That the people at the top are good and decent folk; and that they work hard and pay their fair share. "So leave them alone already!" I think it is training, pure and simple. Having to face a reality where a person finally realizes they were getting screwed all along. That is hard. Especially when you consider most folks feel utterly impotent to do anything about it. Better to believe a rose-colored hopeful lie than face the truth.
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Post by redsoxfan on Feb 23, 2014 3:36:14 GMT -5
It's all about where you are at and what's expected of you next. Of course you didn't see anything too over the top near the blackjack table- you have to act a certain way in proximity to large amounts of money because money is treated as sacred. But I know absolutely for sure that you can run up behind people in a casino on the strip and stop a punch one inch from the back of their head repeatedly on your way to the garage, run across the top of a line of cars, strip down naked, pee off the side of the garage and then put on a giant teddy bear costume, and head back into the casino, and nobody will say a word to you until you reach the gaming floor- then they will tell you to take the mask off, and that's it. (and for the record this was a local hustler and his mark that I followed around for entertainment value, not my own behavior)
It's the same anywhere- you don't screw around with the money making, and if you run out of money you get the heck out, but if you've paid off big for the day and you've got more to spend tomorrow, there's usually a separate area, away from the people they still need to get more money out of, where you can do anything you please if it will make you come back and spend big again next time. And for the people at the top of something as lucrative as wallstreet, those places probably have the resources to wear out timeless classic sins and invent whole new ones to replace them.
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Post by lucky4u on Feb 23, 2014 3:43:04 GMT -5
It's all about where you are at and what's expected of you next. Of course you didn't see anything too over the top near the blackjack table- you have to act a certain way in proximity to large amounts of money because money is treated as sacred. But I know absolutely for sure that you can run up behind people in a casino on the strip and stop a punch one inch from the back of their head repeatedly on your way to the garage, run across the top of a line of cars, strip down naked, pee off the side of the garage and then put on a giant teddy bear costume, and head back into the casino, and nobody will say a word to you until you reach the gaming floor- then they will tell you to take the mask off, and that's it. (and for the record this was a local hustler and his mark that I followed around for entertainment value, not my own behavior) It's the same anywhere- you don't screw around with the money making, and if you run out of money you get the heck out, but if you've paid off big for the day and you've got more to spend tomorrow, there's usually a separate area, away from the people they still need to get more money out of, where you can do anything you please if it will make you come back and spend big again next time. And for the people at the top of something as lucrative as wallstreet, those places probably have the resources to wear out timeless classic sins and invent whole new ones to replace them. Rrrright....a "local hustler" did all that, not you...gotcha. I don't doubt it one bit in that sense. Comparatively, though, how many parties get broken up or busted in hotel rooms every night for raucous behavior while a blind eye is turned when these particular guys do it? The sad thing is, I very much doubt that they do anything about the clean up costs after such things because their "patronage" is so important. Also agree that pushing that creating new sins is most likely fairly common place. Can't be like the common man in anything. I mean, heck, even Proctor & Gamble knows that there's even a luxury market for even the most basic of items. Heck, you can even buy luxury colored toilet paper at a bargain price of $39.99 for 6 rolls. If there's a luxury market for such things as these, then I can well imagine that if they can't settle for regular old TP to wipe their bums with, then what else won't they be mundane about?
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Post by purplehazeleyes on Feb 23, 2014 3:56:35 GMT -5
All in good time, friends. They think they're untouchable, but they will get theirs. It's inevitable.
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Post by redeyed on Feb 23, 2014 4:00:26 GMT -5
Good coverage of the event, and disturbing audio. Just goes to show that disgusting is as disgusting does.
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Post by burnnotice on Feb 23, 2014 4:14:12 GMT -5
This behavior reminds me of what I have read about how the elite of Rome acted. Gluttony, mockery, debauchery. The part that bothers me, is the mockery. This pattern of the wealthy mocking others is why they are gaining so much hatred against their status. Ye reap what ye sow. Yep. I remember during Occupy, there was bunch of pictures and video released of one of Occupy Wall Street's attempts to march into the Wall Street area where they encountered a bunch of these people looking down at them from a balcony, taking pictures and drinking champagne. It infuriated a lot of the protesters. What amazes me is how many defend these kind of attitudes/behaviors of the financial elite. I often ponder the reason why. Is it that these defenders believe that they can become like the financial elite or is it fear? Fear that, if they do, the anger will then be directed at them or fear that the elite may retaliate against them? I remember getting into an argument with one of my family's former employees on the subject of taxing the wealthy. He'd worked a just above minimum wage low level job in my family's business, which was worth $32 million at the time. Although he was making less than $30k a year at the time, he was rabidly defending the wealthy against increasing taxes. The rub was that my father, who was, even a reduced state, still making about $360k a year, fully supported a tax increase on himself as did I. So you had basically a poor person defending the rich and a still reasonably wealthy person asking to be taxed. Irony at its worst. Never understood this phenomena. I completely agree Lucky4u- this has always baffled me as well! Minus the obvious shills, there are many people who regularly brown-nose every move of the elite. It's almost as if they assume if they do it long enough and loud enough, that some of the wealth will trickle down to them just for being supporters! lol It also seems that their favorite retort, when questioned about such behavior, is that "you must be jealous". *grin* Not in this lifetime or any other, for that matter! I have witnessed the same as you mentioned, where poor people are often the ones defending the rich. It truly makes no sense at all; it's like the slaves are defending their masters. They cannot see the bigger picture of WHY they will be kept poor for the foreseeable. The elite don't need any more sycophants, and they mock them just as much as they do the rest of us "unwashed masses".
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Post by msapple on Feb 23, 2014 4:18:54 GMT -5
Let them eat cake.............It is reaching a tipping point that I believe can not be stopped. Anyone making under 14 dollars an hour is about to be screwed. Inflation is going to take you ability to feed and house yourself away.
If you are reading this and make close to that amount take notice. Every week the prices keep going up and up. Hyper inflation is coming this year or next and will wipe out all wealth. All the stories you read in the mainstream are lies. Believe what you can see look at your grocery bill each week and see the cold hard truth.
As this happens many service industry workers will demand more money that will only cause this crash to speed up. The government will try new ways to get money but this is only a stop gap. They printed so much money this has to happen. It could take time maybe 2 years at the most but the dollar bubble will crash.
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Post by superxsoldier on Feb 23, 2014 4:25:40 GMT -5
Didn't Ron Paul say the same things about 3-4 years ago? It just sound so damn familiar.
There is a line in a country song, "somebody told us wall street fell, but we were so poor we couldn't tell"
Enjoy today.
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