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Post by burnnotice on Mar 9, 2014 2:56:50 GMT -5
Here's a boring solution: Pay your bills.
People decry the lack of available credit, or the cost of debt while at the same time throw their arms up when the company that lent you the money have the audacity to want you to pay it back. The lack of available credit and the cost of loans is associated with the risk. Catching deadbeats is a good thing.
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Post by yourpresident on Mar 9, 2014 3:12:54 GMT -5
Unless you are driving a stolen car or have stolen plates you don't have anything to worry about, that is unless you are very paranoid. Well you can thank the great people of the UK for this system, which has been around since the late 70's. en.wikipedia.org...Again unless your breaking the law why does it bother you that the police are using this to help catch those posing threats to you and your safety? |
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Post by augustusmasonicus on Mar 9, 2014 6:55:01 GMT -5
cctv is everywhere. They use public bins in some parts of AU to conceal the cameras.
Nobody seems to mind, cos they feel safer... *cough
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Post by bonesmason on Mar 9, 2014 7:20:23 GMT -5
Because the people in control of that sort of infrastructure seem to be at best very amoral people who seem to majorly benefit themselves by subjugation of the masses through labour. So, some people aware enough to realise that may indeed be a very bad thing often using both history and current events to raise rational concerns |
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Post by silencer on Mar 9, 2014 7:35:06 GMT -5
Because the people in control of that sort of infrastructure seem to be at best very amoral people who seem to majorly benefit themselves by subjugation of the masses through labour. So, some people aware enough to realise that may indeed be a very bad thing often using both history and current events to raise rational concerns So then don't borrow money from those amoral people who are out to subjugate you by agreeing to lend you money. |
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Post by Apollo_18 on Mar 9, 2014 7:45:22 GMT -5
Question for you...
Do you know anyone that has been detained because of one of these devices?
Maybe two questions...
How can you make that assumption about those using this type of technology, unless you know all of those who use this technology?
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Post by voltaire on Mar 9, 2014 9:04:27 GMT -5
Your very own source answers your first question as it states the details of the first arrest when deployed.
I look to those in the public forum, our elected officials, im sure google could quickly compile in long order a database of articles on local corruption and abuses of surveillance technology in and around the country for some time. Most likely collusion of local councils acting as proxy between private business interests and those in Parliament. Im sure it is just total happenstance however that more often than not the interests of both government and private business just happens to be the same, often to the detriment of the people. But dont worry, im sure despite all that goes with power they have the peoples interest at heart, LOL.
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Post by networksolutions on Mar 9, 2014 9:11:43 GMT -5
Did you actually pay attention to what it said?
Notice the part where it was because this technology found a stolen car which in turn became a murder case.
This was not some innocent person driving their own car that was stopped, which is what paranoid people think this technology is being used for.
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Post by maverick on Mar 9, 2014 9:23:54 GMT -5
I paid as much attention to it as I was required to by the question you asked. Seemed pretty self explanatory. Please understand the ethical conundrums behind concepts such as Electronic police state. The adverse effects of such a state on society is not just measured in however many private individuals are kidnapped by the government but also in how such a system can be used to dangerously coerce a society into a way of being that may not entirely be the will of the people, effectively side stepping any democratic process. With regards to the technology you mention though. The laughing policemen: 'Inaccurate' data boosts arrest rateAs I said earlier it is not hard to find abuses of this technology and those cameras are really just meant for cars. You personaly could believe in a police state, ethicaly if you can justify that in your own mind, thats cool, thats up to you, there might even be some commies under my bed, I dunno but I do not believe this technology in anyway is for our own benefit. |
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Post by jennyfromtheblock on Mar 9, 2014 22:31:47 GMT -5
Well then if your car is ever stolen make sure to tell them not to use this technology since you feel it will not benefit you in any way.
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