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Post by flipthecoin on Apr 9, 2015 18:21:30 GMT -5
As someone else has said, wmd's were just part of many reasons. The fact that they had them and used them not that long before the 2003 invasion is why I have no problem bringing it up. 1991 was the last time they used them too, not 80's. Indeed - but hey were the one that was "sold" to he public, and the REAL reasons were not advertised!! Someone quoted the use by the Kurds which was why I focused on that. Nut let's look at 1991 - it was 12 years previously, Iraq had been defeated, agreed to abandon them as part of the peace terms, had the inspections, and actually had no operational weapons left - all that was ever found were old casings and a small amount of old shells and rockets that had been forgotten by the Iraqi's - about 500 total projectiles, all dating to before 1991, all degraded past any usefulness, with corroded containers and contents mostly no longer active. You are in fantasy land!!
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Post by girlxkiller on Apr 9, 2015 18:35:01 GMT -5
I want to know who in this thread read the 93 pages before posting a reply.
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Post by judgementday on Apr 9, 2015 18:52:43 GMT -5
OP I will not even read the PDF Think about it, if the king of deception decided to give you more information You'd be stupid to even consider it
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Post by sexykiller on Apr 9, 2015 19:07:15 GMT -5
I haven't read the document yet...but, your comment is "WMDs capable of being a threat to the west". I don't know, so I'll ask. Was that a quote...exactly and inclusive of every word that was stated by Bush and his people? Or did you add the "a threat to the west" part? Or is something there left off? Again, I don't know the answer but when I search for your exact quote on Google, only this thread appears.
If those words are a quote from an official, then isn't a threat to our allies a threat to the US? And if it is not a quote, what was really said?
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Post by sexykiller on Apr 9, 2015 19:07:33 GMT -5
Maybe if "the world" would clean up their own crap instead of always looking to someone else to take the lead and pay the bill, you wouldn't have to blame the US. Maybe if the middle east could become peace loving people instead of rabid boars who want every other religion dead along with the people who won't convert, and who keep women as bundled up slaves, we wouldn't have to aid our friends to keep them in their place. Maybe if Europe would do something about a new and rising Russia. Maybe if the rest of the world had taken care of Hitler, we wouldn't have had to. Maybe we...the US...shouldn't be looked to to solve other country's problems. Stop taking our money, turn away our military bases, decide you don't want us as allies...GO FOR IT...PLEASE. To be honest with you...I support that mentality. I'm sick of spending billions on ungrateful idiots that talk big...and then cry for help when they can't pay the bills or don't have the balls to protect their own women and children. In fact, show some real backbone and make a statement. Return every cent paid to the other countries back to the US and make it retroactive for 100 years. Pay the US's military bill, our intelligence bill for everything we ever did FOR you. Send back the same amount of food, protection and disaster relief, medical aid, etc.
Then...AND ONLY THEN...will I listen to how other countries hate the US. Until then...it is nothing but whining from an ungrateful world.
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Post by purplehazeleyes on Apr 9, 2015 19:19:06 GMT -5
Bush Iraq Statement; Some ask how urgent this danger is to America and the world. The danger is already significant, and it only grows worse with time. If we know Saddam Hussein has dangerous weapons today - and we do - does it make any sense for the world to wait to confront him as he grows even stronger and develops even more dangerous weapons? www.theguardian.com... Granted he keeps adding "and the world" in this speech, seems a little convenient!
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Post by ispyi on Apr 9, 2015 19:29:37 GMT -5
Bush Iraq Statement; Some ask how urgent this danger is to America and the world. The danger is already significant, and it only grows worse with time. If we know Saddam Hussein has dangerous weapons today - and we do - does it make any sense for the world to wait to confront him as he grows even stronger and develops even more dangerous weapons? www.theguardian.com... Granted he keeps adding "and the world" in this speech, seems a little convenient! Seems accurate. He did have dangerous weapons. Where is the "WMD" part? And he did threaten the world. Sure...maybe not going to war and invading Japan, but his actions threatened many including our friends, he thumbed his nose at the UN and killed how many people during his reign? I'm aware the Iraq war may have been overkill (no pun intended) but you either have to believe one of two things. Either Saddam had to be taken out because he was a tyrant...or that those living in the middle east NEED to be ruled by someone that evil in order to live as civilized people. Personally...I believe the latter.
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Post by thesanone on Apr 9, 2015 19:42:36 GMT -5
As if many, many, many of us didn't already know it was a lie and an illogical argument. There were no WMD. No mass graves. Lies and vapor.
I think they should all be hung like Saddam was. Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rice, Powell, Giuliani, Blair and all the other criminals who were complicit. In public. And that every family who lost someone on 9/11 and as a result of their war of lies should be paid reparations from the fortunes they made from both.
And the people who believed that any of that or the new lies being told today to make fortunes, who pretend to cower in fear and who instill fear are on notice too.
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Post by burnnotice on Apr 9, 2015 19:51:50 GMT -5
MILITARY INTELLIGENCE will always be an oxymoron no matter what the situation is
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Post by nsainvader on Apr 11, 2015 9:43:44 GMT -5
MILITARY INTELLIGENCE will always be an oxymoron no matter what the situation is Chemical weapons sold to him by the west and friends.
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