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Post by networksolutions on Apr 11, 2015 10:02:09 GMT -5
As if many, many, many of us didn't already know it was a lie and an illogical argument. There were no WMD. No mass graves. Lies and vapor. I think they should all be hung like Saddam was. Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rice, Powell, Giuliani, Blair and all the other criminals who were complicit. In public. And that every family who lost someone on 9/11 and as a result of their war of lies should be paid reparations from the fortunes they made from both. And the people who believed that any of that or the new lies being told today to make fortunes, who pretend to cower in fear and who instill fear are on notice too. I would agree with you if you agree to expand your idea into an ideology. Hang everyone in government and start over. I'll sign on to that one. |
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Post by specopsgirls on Apr 11, 2015 11:28:05 GMT -5
Iraq had no plans or ability to attack the USA with conventional or chem/bio weapons - the us lied and said they did Fact: Iraq did have massive amounts of chemical weapons Source: International Moniters Recovery of...Between Oct. and Dec. 2006 more then 2000 chemical bombs were recovered alone. Source: Redacted Army Report (refer to page 5) UNSCOMPercieved enemies, I wonder how Saddam felt about us already waging war in Afghanistan whilst staging along his borders in Kuwait and elsewhere. The thing is, is that I do not think that Saddam was prepared to do something but he did have the weapons and his capabilities is unknown if you factor in guerrilla tactics, I am also not privy to the knowledge of pacts and treaties much less who Iraqs allies were prior to the invasion of Afghanistan and then ultimately Iraq. Things like the "Victory Over America" Palace and other anti west sentiments throughout the region lead me to believe that Saddam was not very friendly to the US. I do not justify war there but I will say that this whole mess is alot more then just throwing around cynical and ridiculous things like "war for oil" and it was about this or that. (not saying you said those things) I am saying that there is more here then meets the eye. The real criminals are still at large and the people of the world keep falling for the same tricks. The main point I am trying to make though is that Iraq did have chemical weapons, Iraq may have deployed them terror style (may have is speculation we may never know cause we shock and awed them first) and most importantly there is a lot more to this then putting down "facts" unless you are prepared to link them all together in a manner that is irrefutably obvious. (facts on there own do not describe the whole situation) |
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Post by Olivia on Apr 17, 2015 2:44:26 GMT -5
Saddam was relatively friendly to the US. We left him in power after the first war, and we used him for cheap oil and forced purchases of our countries goods. The public rhetoric was death to America but behind closed doors his enemies were largely the same as our enemies and we were keeping him in power. In politics that's about as friendly as you can get.
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Post by wonderqueen on Apr 17, 2015 2:49:42 GMT -5
I have a friend that does special ops in the middle east and i asked him if there were any WMDs found in Iraq , and he said yes and i know he is not the kind of person to lie.
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Post by patriotgames on Apr 17, 2015 2:57:34 GMT -5
I have a friend that does special ops in the middle east and i asked him if there were any WMDs found in Iraq , and he said yes and i know he is not the kind of person to lie. WMD is a broad term. There were some found in Iraq, Saddam had aging chemical weapons and those count as WMD's. We know he had these because we found them, oddly enough we sold them to him originally. What matters though is that he had little to no capability to produce his own, his weapons were old and losing effectiveness, he had no delivery system, and that he didn't have weapons of the caliber claimed. Yes he had some chemical weapons but he didn't have anything even 1/10 as deadly as what we claimed he had. We were claiming things like Saddam was preparing an imminent nuclear strike on an American city in cooperation with Al Qaeda when in reality he had chemical weapons that could kill maybe 2000 people in a strike, and no ability to shoot a missile more than 50 miles. |
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Post by texasrangers on Apr 17, 2015 3:03:49 GMT -5
Are chemical or biological weapons not weapons of mass destruction?
I bet if Israel used them they would instantly be charged with using WMDs.
But it's not when saddam does it?!?!
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Post by supremegod on Apr 17, 2015 3:09:21 GMT -5
The declassification is pointless, because the document is so heavily redacted.
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Post by maverick on Apr 17, 2015 3:40:17 GMT -5
All I have heard from the left is them screaming "There were no WMDs!!!"
And we find out that there were all along-regardless of where he got them (I think that whoever-I know they were from the US-sold them to him should be charged with every death that the shipment caused) they actually WERE THERE.
Is the left going to continue to scream (nonsensically) that there were no WMDs?
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Post by BlackHawk on Apr 17, 2015 5:04:00 GMT -5
Saddam Hussein In His Own Words: U.S.S. Cole Bombing, October 12, 2000 "[Iraqis] should intensify struggle and jihad in all fields and by all means..." Iraq TV, October 22, 2000 (State-controlled) The Attacks of September 11 "The United States reaps the thorns its rulers have planted in the world." Saddam Hussein, September 12, 2001 "The real perpetrators [of September 11] are within the collapsed buildings." Alif-Ba, September 11, 2002 (State-controlled newspaper) "[September 11 was] God's punishment." Al-Iktisadi, September 11, 2002 (State-controlled newspaper) "If the attacks of September 11 cost the lives of 3,000 civilians, how much will the size of losses in 50 states within 100 cities if it were attacked in the same way in which New York and Washington were? What would happen if hundreds of planes attacked American cities?" Al-Rafidayn, September 11, 2002 (State-controlled newspaper) "The simple truth [about September 11] is that America burned itself and now tries to burn the world." Alif-Ba, September 11, 2002 (State-controlled magazine) " t is possible to turn to biological attack, where a small can, not bigger than the size of a hand, can be used to release viruses that affect everything..."
Babil, September 20, 2001 (State-controlled newspaper)
"The United States must get a taste of its own poison..."
Babil, October 8, 2001
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Yeah sounds really friendly too, where do I find evidence of his friendly back door parties with the west? |
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