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Post by area51 on Mar 10, 2014 9:56:00 GMT -5
Yea,I need a loan.............a loan for the truth.Lol,really all I want is for you to add me as well.
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Post by spygirl on Mar 10, 2014 10:09:17 GMT -5
You're welcome. Black projects have a range of secrecy, you can't really get above that unless you want to start making stuff up. It really depends on your particular job. You say "less people know, no one knows the whole piece". That's how projects usually are and it's to protect defense secrets and anything sensitive relative to the project. I am a government disinfo agent, you got me. If Non-Disclosure Agreements weren't effective, then I would imagine 1000s of people around the U.S. that work on sensitive projects would be coming forward because Treason and being put into jail for the rest of their lives is much more comfortable. Anyone in the business of secrecy and has access to the type of sensitive material you're touching on won't be stupid enough to release information because they know it won't be hard to find them.
But I guess that piece of paper doesn't do much. Hold on a sec..
An Engineer is here from Area 51, we're going to go have coffee and talk about the new electromagnetic aircraft they've been developing there, because he has access to everything.
OH! Dude! There's more here now! Ya what a party. We're going to have a big group discussion for lunch I can tell! Man. hahha that piece of paper doesn't stop anyone obviously!
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Post by worldmaster on Mar 10, 2014 10:25:15 GMT -5
That's funny, I could of swore you just called me a disinfo agent.
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Post by maverick on Mar 10, 2014 10:38:47 GMT -5
If you want to find out so bad about all the black projects, go to school like regular people do, get a degree in an engineering field specific to Aerospace, work really hard, get first in your class, develop theoretical aircraft or some form of exotic propulsion -----> Join the Air Force.. do really well there and good from there.
There's your biggest step as opposed to hanging out on an internet message board where the information you'll receive isn't going to be genuine if it's still classified.
You'll be stuck too hard in the conspiracy realm and just be deferred from reality, but hey, your choice.
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Post by BlackHawk on Mar 10, 2014 10:53:28 GMT -5
Well apparently the F-19 missing was just a 'business' decision by Northrup-Grumman as at the time(early 80s)they wanted their new jet to be designated the F-20 for various reasons.(Note-The F-20 'Tigershark' was a failure and was never sold)Of course some say that the F-19 is a secret fighter,it may be but t he evidence points otherwise. So it was all about business(as usual)but it does raise a question about what happened to or where are the other 'missing' designations?Of course some are secret projects,but how many?
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Post by BlackHawk on Mar 10, 2014 10:54:57 GMT -5
That's funny, I could of swore you just called me a disinfo agent. Well I'm glad your protecting that member(can he not do it himself?).Also I was being sarcastic when I called you a disinfo agent,not the same as irrelevantly pointing out typos cause you are to ignorant to do anything else! Anyways believe what you want,I'm done bickering with you,have a nice day.
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Post by popevader on Mar 10, 2014 11:05:39 GMT -5
In general, people have little conception of the problems involved in reverse-engineering a device or a propulsion system, and that's just for a terrestrial design.
For anything that's even mildly advanced and is from a non-terrestrial source, to be of value we'd need a lot more than the final device.
Even technology merely 10e4 years in advance of ours might be nearly impossible to understand, let alone disassemble safely and engineer.
Having the final device or technology or a crashed (even if still functional) propulsion system is only marginally helpful in a majority of cases. For instance what good would a microchip do if we hadn't already mastered the electromagnetic energy spectrum? The majority of the time just trying to disassemble a technology will destroy it, and highly advanced technology (such as a nuclear reactor) might not be abe to be disassembled by a more primitive species.
What's more important to have and understand are the Production Methods, not the final device.
All the stories seem to be based of a technology which is almost exactly the same level as ours, or maybe a few dozen years in the future. The probability that another sentient species could come here and have technology which is close enough to ours that we could benefit from it has got to be very, very small.
So I think it's safe to discount all or nearly all stories of reverse-engineered alien technology.
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Post by maddog on Mar 10, 2014 11:23:30 GMT -5
Speaking for myself I would regard any information coming from Edgar Fouche with caution until I could verify his claims without proof his statements are anecdotal and a question of belief, but that is just me.
This is how he described himself in a presentation in 1998/99 : Incidentally I would not bother going to the website because there is nothing to see, it could be abandoned, I am not sure.
Unfortunately I don't feel qualified to discuss the science behind the theories of the propulsion for this alledged craft I know there have been many suggestions about anti-gravity, something I would love to think existed, but again there does not seem to be any no solid proof as yet.
I do not think there is any harm in speculating what might be but again personally the TR3,s have no definitive proof, of course it does not stop me hoping though that this proof turns up one day.
I will admit though that there has been an increase in FT or BT sightings since the eighties which might suggest the deployment of a delta platform that is not publicised, if it is an ultra black project it displays amazing capabilities far beyond what we see in conventional aircraft and some very strange behaviour aswell.
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Post by BlackHawk on Mar 10, 2014 11:42:34 GMT -5
But I don't agree that manipulating mass/gravity/electromagnetism, FTL travel, anti-gravity (maybe, we're close to it now publicly), etc is technology that we are only "a few dozen years"away from discovering and using.
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Post by BlackHawk on Mar 10, 2014 11:57:26 GMT -5
Hey,good points in your post(Starred).You are right,as I have said also there is no proof(that we mere mortals**non-elite** have,lol),just speculation,but there is more and more evidence as you stated pointing towards something.We all know that our government always has 'goodies' that no one else knows about,it is just a fact of life.I do hope,like you that by this speculation and research that something is exposed(against 'their' will)one day.I understand 'National Security',but withholding world changing technologies FOR WHATEVER PURPOSE is a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY!! What does 'FT' and 'BT' mean by the way?lol
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