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Post by bonesmason on Feb 17, 2014 18:40:58 GMT -5
I think the photos are great. It does not matter if they were posted before, heck; I did not see these so I am glade you posted them.
I have been saying it for years that the WTC destroyed it own self when the top floors lean over and fell, we clearly see it vaporized into it own self. When the top fell over we can see there is no pan caking of the floors, yet every square inch of concrete is pulverized, into a fine dust before it even hits the ground. We do not even need science to tell us this, it is clear as day just watching all the videos.
I don’t need the government to tell me my eyes are lying to me, I know the government is lying to me, not my eyes. Some people trust our government so much so; that when the government told them the WTC just fell down, just pancake on their own selves they actually told them their eyes are not seeing what they are really looking at, and they bought it. See how easy it was subliminal messages, that was all it took.
Perhaps, one day when all is gone they will wake up and say, WHAT HAPPENED? I love TV it is the best brainwashing tool in the 21 century used by our government, military and corporate media.
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Post by maverick on Feb 18, 2014 10:09:33 GMT -5
Russians are slowly re-digging the trench separating its citizens from the US. Slowly, peacefully, they format people's minds through biased TV reports, false flag operations against their own people and stuff, false pretenses to claim parts of the Arctic Ocean to secure resources...
It's easier for Russia, compared to the US. 1. Most of Rusians have a low education level. I mean, very low. 2. Any open critic of the government ends up in jail or in a graveyard. Look what happened to Anna Politovskaia among others...
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Post by BlackHawk on Feb 18, 2014 10:15:20 GMT -5
It really is pretty obvious when looking at these photos and watching videos of the collapse that it was not caused by structural failure at the top of the building. Basic common sense is all that is needed to figure this out.
If the collapse was caused by the plane hitting the building, the top section would still have to bash through all of the undamaged floors below the failure as well as the massive central core. You can see from one of the photos how high the plane hit. There is no way that the weight of that top section could pulverise the entire building to the ground in seconds and with what seems like no resistance at all.
Considering the speed that the buildings fell I think most rationally minded people would agree that the OS is absurd at best.
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Post by msapple on Feb 18, 2014 10:22:06 GMT -5
Yeah it seems more info being released lately. Maybe I should post my own never before seen pictures ;-) (I lived near the pentagon and took pics and video minutes after the crash. I also knew someone who worked at the pentagon at the time and was lucky they were not killed).
I look forward to the day when ALL of the info is released, but sadly this will probably be decades before being declassified.
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Post by spygirl on Feb 18, 2014 10:51:23 GMT -5
That article, which doesn't specifically endorse the conspiracy and clearly lays out a non-demo explanation is almost 2 years old... seems like it's a bit of a stretch to use that as a justifications for "9/11 truther movement hitting MSM".
More like, "Truther conspiracy mentioned once on BBC website 2 years ago".
More distortions.
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Post by msapple on Feb 25, 2014 1:07:36 GMT -5
Yes, but what would you expect on a website like ATS... would would the vote have been on the NIST forums? Talk about your biased group.
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Post by anonymoushacker on Feb 25, 2014 1:09:56 GMT -5
I could see both sides of the debate happening. On the one hand, I could see the building being designed in a way that if there was a catastrophic structural failure then you would want the building to collapse they way it did. It would minimize casualties in the surrounding area. The only problem I have with the official story is the administration that was in charge when all this went down, so to speak.
It has been shown that Bush went to Jacques Chirac to get support for invading Iraq. He was trying to stop Gog and Magog from the bible. Cheney was also giving Bush his own propaganda with biblical verses on them. Sort of egging him on to invade, Interesting that these guys were all either oil guys or had worked for defense contractors. Sort of how Obama has a bunch of financial goons in his cabinet... which leads to a bail out where all the top guys walk away with a ton of money. The difference? Now people aren't dying but there lives are miserable.
So what I am saying is that the US Government would never let the full story out because there would be a lot of problems with conflicting interests. We will never know most likely what the true story really is. I for one having worked in government cannot trust anything they say as the complete truth. Because it never has been and never will be told. All the politicians have been bought off by corporate America, which is plain as day, unless your in your living under a rock. The MSM has already been been told that they need not tell the truth because they are entertainment not government entities. So if the MSM is the source for any opinions you have, most likely there is an agenda with them too. I.E. the system is failing. Rome is starting to burn, people do not trust the government and even if they are telling the truth for once, most do not believe our sky is falling anymore.
I for one believe there was a coup with 9/11. We knew what was going to happen and let it. There is obviously something going on as seen by all the rights being taken away, the corruption in government and the blind eye on main street over Wall Street. To me this was designed to happen, and with everything that has come out to date concerning everything Washington, how the buildings fell does not matter. What does matter is why we let it happen, who are the players and what is our future.
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Post by nsainvader on Feb 25, 2014 1:15:50 GMT -5
Your Faither rants and conspiracies aren't common sense. In fact there's hundreds of different contradictory theories.
They can't all be right.
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Post by sexykiller on Feb 25, 2014 1:22:12 GMT -5
new investigation would clear this whole thing up you know... thats what the truther community has been trying to push since it became a movement. dont you think this would all go away if there was a 100% transparent full-through investigation instead of doing guess work like nist and the commission(white wash) report did?
hell they didnt even subpoena anybody, and BUSH/CHENEY were questioned behind closed doors, infighting, and a lot more.
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Post by jennyfromtheblock on Feb 25, 2014 1:39:10 GMT -5
"Faither"? Wow, namecalling from a 'Bunker, that's a new one... You're this close to ending up on my ignore list where you belong, then you can be the loudest drunk in the middle of an empty bar.
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