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Post by lucky4u on Mar 19, 2014 19:34:55 GMT -5
What about ancient relics like the Ipuwer Papyrus? It,
Also there are now discoveries being made in archaeology that reveal that there were languages that are possibly ancient Hebrew being spoken in the time of King David (970BC).
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Post by monalisa on Mar 19, 2014 19:39:35 GMT -5
Why not?
You do realize that the whole text is about the supernatural, right? If we believe that Christ was resurrected from the grave, why wouldn't we be open to God letting some people live to be 300 or 900 years old?
Personally, I don't think that to be the case, but see no reason that it couldn't be and take no issue with anyone who thinks that there were 300 year old people in the Hebrew ancestry.
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Post by specopsgirls on Mar 19, 2014 20:18:41 GMT -5
Abraham was taught by Shem, son of Noah, and Eber son of Shem. Noah learned from Methusaleh, he from Lemech and So on till Adam. - Again ... the Jewish 'bloodlines' are wrong. For them to be correct, the world would have to be 6,000 years old. And we know for a fact that it is not. - Noah didn't exist. That is a story 'borrowed' by the Jews from the Summerians. They 'freely adapted' the story and changed the names to claim it as their own.
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Post by lastsupper on Mar 19, 2014 20:32:26 GMT -5
Talmud Chaggiga 13b-14a states that there were 974 generations before God created Adam.
""Borrowed from the Sumerians" according to the OT the Hebrews are literally the great grandchildren of the Sumerian Royalty
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Post by specopsgirls on Mar 19, 2014 20:58:35 GMT -5
On the other, if Christ referred to him in a concrete manner ("Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" John 8:58 NIV) then either he was lying or not all-knowing, both indications that Jesus was not God. So we've got these choices ... - Whoever wrote the bible and quoted Jesus got it wrong. - Jesus Himself got it wrong, which means He isn't God as He claimed. - Jesus got it right that Abraham actually existed, and Jesus God-head isn't in question. - Jesus insinuated something that wasn't true, that Abraham existed, to make a point on a level that the Jews could understand. Something you'd not expect from God .. but then again, God allows all sorts of errors in religion to exist and He does nothing to fix it ... so who knows ... The story in the bible is flat out wrong. There COULD have been someone named Abraham, but the story in scripture is historically wrong. There is no collaborating evidence to support scripture so that calls Abraham existing into serious question.
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Post by wonderqueen on Mar 19, 2014 21:35:20 GMT -5
Personally I think that Abraham was not one person, but represented a tribe of people. In my opinion, Abraham's tribe was migrating. Fascinating stuff! Who Was Abraham
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Post by theyarecoming on Mar 19, 2014 22:16:31 GMT -5
No, for Genesis to be taken literally, the world would have to be 6,000 years old, that's the connection.
The bloodlines simply trace back to someone named Adam, whom the Israelites believed was the first human being, but the bloodline could be correct without the "first human being" being literally the first homo-sapien, just some notable guy, and that has nothing to do with the age of the planet.
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Post by silencer on Mar 19, 2014 22:25:03 GMT -5
Talmud Chaggiga 13b-14a states that there were 974 generations before God created Adam. ""Borrowed from the Sumerians" according to the OT the Hebrews are literally the great grandchildren of the Sumerian Royalty generations of what? and it cannot be men because according to the story there where no men yet
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Post by specopsgirls on Mar 19, 2014 22:54:08 GMT -5
So you are saying that Jews do not believe in the Creation Myth of Adam and Eve? Then where did the Christians get it from? My Jewish Learning
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Post by ispyi on Mar 20, 2014 2:57:49 GMT -5
Apparently there were. Also the Hebrew calendar begins with the CREATION OF ADAM. Not with the Creation of The World. The Talmud also relates that the World was created and destroyed many times.
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