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Post by silencer on Mar 11, 2014 13:15:48 GMT -5
I've had an independant source in the Airforce tell me that the TR-3B Astra is real and that it is the real designation, my source is part of Space Command and flies the F-16C Block 30. Reason the source told me was because I was involved in government abduction and I may put my self at risk for revealing as much as I did. Other sources and to a degree my self knows that the TR-3B is faster than light and that it needs to jump having to stop for a period of time before it can travel again at this speed. I also know that 1st Special Forces Detachment Delta uses TR-3B's for deep black operations which I have been involved in and i'm still suffering from the consequences of that, this was before I joined the US Army. The TR-3B is the triangle sighted all over the world and cover projects are the Aurora and the Stealth Blimp to create plausible deniability. I will not reveal my sources because it will put that individual at risk and their carreer and it may put my own life at risk. With respect that does not scan, why would Space Command be flying F-16s when their area of operations is missiles and satellites. Looking at the website I have found no reference to terrestrial flight operations and I can't see why flying conventional aircraft would be a secret. SourceBut this is a ground operations command. Special OperationsSo when you say uses do you mean transported by, if this was the case then surely there would be sightings around their area of deployment. This is all academic of course since the TR3-b has to be proven to exist first before you can start assigning roles to it.
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Post by Olivia on Mar 11, 2014 13:25:44 GMT -5
Where could they get the money? Well, 3 trillion would help, a bit, but I'm guessin that most of the money comes from patents released from various 'grey' projects, arms dealing, drug running maybe even pharmaceuticals, then you have the syphoning of alloted funds, skim a bit off the top and delegate this rest to the various sub departments, money is bound to be 'lost' in red tape.
Where could they get the pilots? Best guess I'd have would be the USAF, they've had their own 'Space program' for decades now, so their pilots could be more than competent dealing with terrestrial (super/hypersonic?) and non terrestrial (sub/superluminal?) craft, testing or not.
Black vs 'Ultra' Black I agree with a few people on here, what you consider to be 'ultra' black, I would myself consider to be black, maybe even a dark grey (lol). The TR's or the Aurora project, considering the possibilites, wouldn't be that high up, consider off world bases, Fleets of FTL craft, moon bases, time travel, teleportation, I'd consider these 'Ultra' black, these are the ones they have NO intention of releasing. Anti-gravity (hate that term) or gravity manipulation would be an outright certainty compared to these more 'far-fetched', for some, ideas.
Mike Singh has a good Thread on the secret space program, some good material to back up his ideas and speculation. As for Nick Cook's book, hunt for zero point as being all theoretical, he visits the museum of the scientist who invented alot of the 'Nazi' UFO's(Schoberger?), ran by his grandsom I think, haven't read it in a while, some of his diaries are still there showing his work, but alot were taken shortly after the war aswell as given by him before leaving America, to return to Germany, that's some good evidence there due to the scacity of it in this area.
As for if any of this stuff exists, I'll say what I always say, it's possible, the military is AT LEAST 50 years ahead of mainstream (my guess would be 100-200 years, but...), if they are announcing robotic suits, gravity manipulation or energy weaponry as 'breakthrough' technologies in the mainstream, what is the current state of these technologies in the MIC?
Good thread blackhawk!
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Post by montiboys on Mar 11, 2014 13:48:41 GMT -5
I think Ive heard it said before that the government/military is about 40 years ahead of mainstream technology. Either way, I would say shooting for 200 years is probably grandiose.
About the F-19 story.... This is completely unqualifiable, (if thats a word)but I thought I would share the story. If you think its BS, thats up to you, I cant defend it since it doesnt have sources. This is just the way I heard it, years ago.
Someone higher up the eschelon decided they wanted to keep paperwork to a minimum on the new Stealth Fighter. To do so, they made it so the Aircraft doesnt exist. To do so, they had to change their classification of it to UNCLASSIFIED. Reasoning, if it didnt exist, it didnt need a top Secret clearance. So some technician walked out with the plans, and sold them to Testors, who made a model of it, retailing for $19.99. To embelish the story even further, I heard that technician has since been killed.
I know this story is probably BS, but its what I heard. Take it as you like it, but dont put too much faith in it. I thought about qulaifying this story with who I heard it from, but like I said, treat it as a story. Honestly, to me, its always been entertainment value. Hell, if I tell the story now, I usually add a hook on the end of the technicians hand.
BTW,thanks Blackhawk, for the new line in my sig. Sums up The Inconvenient Truth forum very nicely these days.
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Post by spion on Mar 11, 2014 13:55:30 GMT -5
I would agree with you Darkstar post Source
This would suggest where the TR prefix first started. And then evlolved either in reality or speculatiively into TR3 But where did the "B" come from. The date of publication for Zero Point as far as I can determine was September 2001 and Fouche talks about the TR3-b in 1998 which makes me feel there maybe an even earlier date somewhere. As yet I have not been able to find an earlier reference but things may get a little vague when looking for anything with the TR3 prefix. I will of course keep looking. One paragraph from the article at Space Review that I have echoed and also was proffered in the NIDS report.
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Post by wondergirl on Mar 11, 2014 14:04:28 GMT -5
What's wrong? Don't like what you hear? I'm glad that at this point, you've only come to attack my signature and some side comment I've made.
It's probably because I'm a disinformation agent.
When you want to talk about the other stuff I've posted so far, lemme know, even if its not what you want to hear young man.
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Post by maddog on Mar 11, 2014 14:23:05 GMT -5
I do digress and apologize to you my friend but since you do minor in physics you can agree that his account is fatally flawed within the atmosphere.
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Post by BlackHawk on Mar 11, 2014 14:34:21 GMT -5
Ha,well I can't tell you the approximate dates because like I said it was over nine years ago! Thge base however,is located in Smyrna,Tennessee,USA-hope that helps!
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Post by BlackHawk on Mar 11, 2014 14:34:42 GMT -5
Thanks for your post,is that what your avatar is supposed to be?(TR-3B)It looks like it is warping space and it is triangular,thats why I ask.
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Post by BlackHawk on Mar 11, 2014 14:35:43 GMT -5
I think as far as classifying certain technologies as black or ultra black we have to be careful an not let our own bias(as members of a 'fringe' site used to hearing about mind boggling technologies)affect our logic,example;Some have said that a craft capable of 'mass reduction' and FTL(FasterThanLight)travel is not 'advanced'enough to be a ultra black project.
Really? I don't think we are anywhere close by ourselfs of producing a feasible prototype capable of FTL travel(or fast sub light travel).Sure you can 'wrap' your head around it,but so can you with teleportation,Moon/Mars bases,time travel(all of which my source confirmed).The point is not rather you can 'conceive' it,but rather build it or come up with at least an idea on how a FTL drive would work.
I am pretty sure mainstream science can't even begin on work to create a FTL engine,let alone mass reduction technology that is 89% accurate in mass reduction!I am sure there are some technologies in the ultra black world that would blow our minds,but alot of it is things already conceived(thanks to sci-fi mostly,lol).My point is that there is not much that could be developed that we could not 'wrap' our heads around! I surely think that 'hyperdrive' or 'warp' drive USAF ships fall into the realm of 'Ultra Black'.
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Post by BlackHawk on Mar 11, 2014 14:40:07 GMT -5
Here is some information on the SR-74 'Scramp' and some other related projects: WOW,so now we are talking about 'Unmanned nuclear powered satellite repair units'.If You think we made this without a little help somewhere along the line from our 'friends' in space than think again.This would defenitaly point to a strong presence in space for us,if you have a permanent orbital vehicle up there to repair things it is only logical that you have a large number of 'assets' up there.The ISS could definitely use this as it would save massive amounts of efforet,money,and time required to launch a shuttle up there to repair something.Will the PTB let them use it?Maybe,maybe not-but I am willing to guess if it does than the astronauts are 'tight lipped' about it.Likely it would be one of those things only in a grave emergency will the PTB allow it to assist the ISS saying "We have a new 'prototype' that might be able to help you." Like I have said for a while, the real space program is with the military. Heres a rendition of the TR-3B: Heres a schematic for a 'mass reduction apparatus':
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