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Post by BlackHawk on Mar 11, 2014 14:41:32 GMT -5
Here is a brief report of the Illinois sighting of a 'black triangle'.
A 'Stealth Blimp Airship'? I think likely not,considering other accounts of these 'triangles' moving at rapid speeds and performing incredible maneuvers.
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Post by redsoxfan on Mar 11, 2014 14:49:36 GMT -5
The best UfO investigations are in Spanish, my favorite researcher is Salvador Freixedo. The Extra-terrestial Menace book is a deep research about the matter of this forum: I do not know if you can find the book in English. La Amenaza Extraterrestre [ salvador freixedo - la amenaza extraterrestre - Upload a Document to Scribd Read this document on Scribd: salvador freixedo - la amenaza extraterrestre ]
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Post by BlackHawk on Mar 11, 2014 20:30:46 GMT -5
Ok so far we have covered the following reported craft in the 'ultra black' world:
1.TR-3A-Predecessor to TR-3B
2.TR-3B-Flying 'triangle' air/space craft likely utilizing propulsion concept similar to anti-gravity(mass reduction) as well as conventional propulsion.Numerous sightings.
3.SR-74-'Daughter' ship to SR75,numerous sightings of both(Aurora sightings,donut contrails)
4.SR-75-'Mothership' to SR74,both 74 and 75 were follow ups on the SR71,likely using hypersonic technology.
**Here is a summary of the SR-75 (Penetrator) 5.SON-SIV:Orbital permanent satellite repair station(nuclear powered,unmanned)
6.Teir 1,2,3,4-UNKNOWN black world craft,possibly alternate name for the TR series craft.
Also does anyone know what the following video is of?Has it been 'debunked'?(The video won't play on here so you have to go to the site. So now we know of some of the craft,I want to mention some 'other'ultra black projects I was told of and try and find some collaborating evidence.
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Post by BlackHawk on Mar 11, 2014 20:32:08 GMT -5
Another things my source told me was that we (US government) have "gigantic, rectangular space craft motherships" that we have been using for some time,these are huge and 100's of years ahead of anything we have.They are part of a secret 'space fleet' and carry several smaller ships within them,as well many crew members.They have capabilities to travel many times the speed of light(how fast I don't know)and use total reversed engineered alien sub light and super light drives(all I know is it is magnetic and affects gravity and space-time).
They are totally silent and have a 'adaptive camouflage system'that allows them to hover right over head a enemy without being detected,they 'blend in' or become part of the sky(so if you look up you see like nothing is there).There is some tell tale signs you can locate it by if you know what to look for.The edges of these craft,though 'camouflaged' can distort the real space around it(you can see odd breaks in the sky that don't belong there,I hope I am explaining this well so you all can understand but it is difficult to explain until you see it.)especially at night, which is when I saw it(at the exact time and place X said to look!)I was looking up at the stars and suddenly a section of sky about(estimation)300-600 yards by 200-400 started moving slowly,but at a steady pace!!No sound,nothing-it looked like the lights below the craft were trying to mimic the stars in the sky,but for some reason they were out of place somewhat. (like they don't expect us to know star positions!)So this craft just flew overhead(about 500 feet up,no more than 1000 feet and that is probably to high) continued on a linear direction(not sure of it was east to west or what) and was gone,needless to say I was speechless.Apparently we have secretly had a very strong and steady presence in deep space since at least the 70's and were up in space well before that(50's,maybe sooner,but definitely by then).
Also he mentioned what is already well known throughout the 'conspiracy community' about bases on the Moon,Mars,underground,and deep underwater in places like the 'Mariana Trench'(that is the deepest spot known on Earth,it plunges down over 7 miles{~37,000 feet!}).He mentioned that there have been battles over control of some of the bases on the Moon and Mars,both with other countries and alien forces. We all know of the reported battles in Area 51 and the 'Dulce Wars',well they happened according to X.One thing he told me was of a battle on the Moon between the Soviets and USA,so maybe the 'Cold War' wasn't so cold!Like I said this source had some extraordinary claims so I urge you all to make up your own minds based on what available evidence you have and my testimonies verifying some of his claims,as well testimonies of others throughout the web that touch on the same things he spoke of.Again,I can not verify any of this beyond a doubt,but I believe it to be possibly true,you make up your own minds.
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Post by lucky4u on Mar 11, 2014 20:50:20 GMT -5
All of these "Black Projects" you keep bringing to the surface on The Inconvenient Truth forum may very well be interrelated to the Bilderberger Group. Here's a quote I posted elsewhere. I also submitted this to DIGG on your behalf, BlackHawk
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Post by BlackHawk on Mar 11, 2014 20:57:41 GMT -5
Hey, thanks for submitting this for me,and thanks for all your input.I just got back from reading some more of your 'Bilderberger' thread and your short story(Haven't finished but its a awesome suspense story!)I too believe that this is interconnected,I have always thought that the 'shadow'government mostly isn't politicians or military at all.My source stated that all these projects are ran by 'individual groups working for the government',but not 'affiliated' with it by any obvious means besides a mention here or there of a budget item or something.
You see that way you have 'plausible deniability'!In essence what I am saying is the 'shadow' government hires these people to start 'non-official military projects' which themselves become 'shadow' programs.It is now a enormous entity operating outside the realm of accountability to the American people,military,or government since it is still in essence 'corporate'.What they do(from information gathered and source)for some of these projects is take the best of the best from the Air Force,Army,etc and bring them into this 'civilian para-military' program and thats how it works,so no trail to follow, no official Senate questions to answer,no accountability.
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Post by nsaangrybird on Mar 11, 2014 21:05:51 GMT -5
Back in the 80s it was suspected that the NSA was about 10 - 50 years ahead of the other code-breaking organizations in the world.
It may have been true, but that gap has deteriorated, and with the advent of modern desk-top computers, it's not known if they have any kind of significant lead in that field. I'm basing this mainly on comments made by Bamford and other followers of these black agencies.
As far as the arms forces having craft or technology 50 to 100 years in advance of current manufacturing, I'm calling BS. It's one thing to be that advanced because of having a monopoly of the resources (as NSA did in the 80s), and be advanced in math, but these people would have us believing that we that advanced amount of equipment (and the necessary exa-flop computing power). It's nonsense.
As far as stealth, it's suggested that a 10 year gap is a reasonable assessment for our lead over the other industrialized nations.
As I mentioned in another post, the projects which are greenlighted are also put under financial constrants and they're done to fulfill a project request. IOW, the AF orders a low observable craft, and Lockheed, Boeing or Northrop submit bids for it and make prototypes and then there's a winner and a production run is made.
Other craft would be done with a similar model. They don't normally do one-offs, with a possible exception being something lie a test-bed project as was the Sea Shadow for the Navy. They don't do projects for requirements which don't yet exist, (such as would something 100 years in the future.
What's important are the production methods, how materials are acquired, how much can be put together with off-the-shelf equipment, how costly it will be.
There's absolutely no evidence for either this level of production methods in existence and no off-the-shelf anti-grav engine to build upon. There's certainly no need for these either. We have almost total control of the skies, and except for the need for a more robust anti-anti-satellite weaponry we're building the Joint Strike Fighter.
With absolutely no evidence of these methods, some 'background leakage' of these supposedly exotic craft, and production methods, I'm seriously doubting this is happening.
Now, had we already built a robust space delivery system, a strong permanent ISS, and a thriving base on the Moon, THEN I might be convinced there could be a hidden exotic craft industry.
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Post by BlackHawk on Mar 11, 2014 21:20:43 GMT -5
Your not taking into account the need we would have for these craft if we had to protect ourselves from an extra terrestrial threat.Also you are not taking into account that the egos of the PTB and the never ending desire to totally 'blow away' any other countries technology,meaning if we can be 100 years ahead,you can bet we will be 100 years ahead.If you develop these technologies now you secure your safety for 100 years,rather than waiting until you need them it might be to late.Also in the 'shadow' world money is nearly 'non-existent',meaning it is not an issue.
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Post by prettypinks on Mar 11, 2014 21:29:24 GMT -5
Ok - heres one from a very undoubtable source that even if the US government has had or is working on secret stuff, even the super cutting edge black stealth developers don't know about it. Lockheed kelly Johnson flying saucer sighting Theres too much to qoute it, but it is a solid reminder that even a few years after WW2 these craft were overflying the USA at regular intervals and this sighting has multiple witnesses from multiple locations and all describe the same object. What i'm trying to say is that some where inside the USA is possibly a developmnet team that is totally 100% outside of the normal loop of power. So secretive that not even the man who designed the U-2 and A-12 knew about. Nor a General.
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Post by BlackHawk on Mar 12, 2014 7:57:09 GMT -5
Also Badge I will quote a friend of mines (Dan Tanna, above me, lol) signature as to why we make these 'exotic' craft.
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